Beeman P17 Pellet Pistol

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mostly plastic except for barrel and pump mechanism

Single pump

The P3 has a much better trigger, otherwise they are almost identical and one is not more accurate than the other. The P17 trigger is a long pull with no definitive break. It takes practice to be able to predict when it will release. My P17 is probably close to ten years old and works just fine, but may be different than what is being produced today.

P3 is manufactured in Germany I believe and is supposed to be better finish quality. The p 17 cost a lot less, is made in China and is not finished as nicely. I own a p17 and it is 100 percent fine.

No

One. Single shot single pump.

Yes. Yes it does.

Pellet and yes he might but it's very hard to do and tricky he will get his fingers caught and it will hurt. I highly recommend something else.

Pellet

It's one pump only.

I suppose it's possible if there was too much friction at the sears. If you're willing to take it apart I can tell you where to look. I think it's the wire inside the hammer that acts as a guide for the secondary sear. This guide is a tight fit so I'd think any changes like thicker wire, sheetmetal sear, or rough edge from the stamping the sear could hold it up. It'll make sense when you see it. Write me at chevota at hotmail and I'll send some pix. Mine was rather tight but worked, still I sanded the wire a bit so the sear had room to move freely.

Depends on many factors, but if you google "Chairgun", a free program, you can plug in your numbers and it will tell you. I was curious and plugged it in and came up with 150-270 yards depending on the pellet used.

It's worth 3 times the money. It is without a doubt the best deal in air pistols. It's my new favorite, taking the place of my old which was the Webley Tempest

It has all metal internals, but the body is plastic. However the body is a high quality plastic and it's steel reinforced over the full length.

The P3 is a true low end target gun; the P17 is a much cheaper clone. Externally they appear identical, but inside the P3 has better machining and assembly. Out of the box the P17 is a terrific value. With some tweaking, it can be a pretty nice gun, but eventually the trigger will do strange things, either firing when it is pumped or refusing to fire when the trigger is pulled. It's just not as tightly tolerance and spec'd as the P3. I have 2 each P3's, one in 22 and one in 177 and enjoy them both. They have better precision and accuracy, more consistent power, and triggers that are very sweet and predictable compared to the P17. Neither appear very pellet-fussy. But you have to weigh the value of $35 versus $350. I'm always looking for used bargains in either the P17 or the P3, and they all reside in my kit to shoot in the backyard at a moment's notice.

I've owned two p17's and now have the P3. On both p17's the trigger failed with a week. In each case it was loaded and cocked but wouldn't fire. The top of the p17 had sharp edges that dug into my hand when cocking the gun. The gun also smelled from some chemical and the package stated stated that the gun contained substances known to cause cancer. The p3 is much better quality. It's a bit easier to cock, the edges are not sharp like on the p17, so they don't dig into your hand when cocking it. It has worked flawlessly with now over 2000 rounds through it. Fixing the p17 is not so easy as people suggest. First of all the tiny lug you unscrew to remove the handle ( in order to work on the trigger) gets stripped VERY easily, and then you can't put it back on. The trigger mechanism is complex and you can't just tug at it. You need some watchmaking-type skills.

I too cannot say for sure because I have never seen a P3 or HW40 in person, but looking at pix of those guns in the open position I cannot see any difference except the chrome and of course the name on the side. The quality of this gun is actually quite good, and it's outstanding for the price, unbelievable actually. Mine had no flaws as some mention, like sharp breech or seam in the chamber, mine was perfect and I would've believed it was a German quality P3 if it said so on the side.

I have had the same question in the past and looked around to see what I could find. Based on that research: the P17 is manufactured in China with some minor work needed to bring it up to the some of the manufacturing specs of the P3 - which is made in Europe (Germany if memory serves me correctly). For my purposes, I limit the effort to deburring the barrel opening where pellets are inserted because the pellets tend to snag on the sharp edge when the gun is new. I also deburr the opening where air exits the pump (where the o-ring is). I recently bought another P17 and it came with improved sights. They have incorporated plastic light tubes which create 2 green dots on the rear sight and one red dot on the front sight. Cheap and effective. I have a lot of fun with mine and have owned several. I have not used the P3 but based on my experience with the P17 I would never spend the extra money on the P3. Not only is the P17 cheap to acquire it is cheap to operate and fun to shoot. This gun is accurate enough for me to use for pest control (birds like my fruit trees as much as I do!) at significant range (20 - 30 yards).

Try checking out at the sight and if there is a restriction you will get a warning before you purchase the product. There are a lot of different regulations for all different countries and they are always changing, so we have set up an automatic warring if there is a product, based on your location, that is forbidden. Shipping price always changes, but you should be able to see the final price before you complete your purchase.

this gun only shoots pellets.... not BB's. to load the pellets, pull down on the hammer and lift the top straight up.... when you locate the barrel opening, place a pellet into it and close it

I believe this gun only shoots steel bb's. Not pellets

No, a 4.5 mm/.177 bb would just roll right out of the barrel. The Beeman P17 is a single-shot breech-loading design; pellets only. You cock it, and while it's 'broken open' you load one pellet. It's not fast, it's not a repeater, but with its rifled barrel it should be reasonably accurate. No bb's, but no CO2 either, so you can shoot it all day and never worry about running out of gas. It's a good target pistol.