Benjamin Trail NP XL 1500, .177 cal

~30 fpe

No.

1100 is a .22 caliber and the 725 is a .25 caliber

Got mine at 29 fpe

I would upgrade to the hammer 4x12x40 works great on mine

22 cal will give the necessary lethality and low ammo cost. 22 cal guns typically shoot 30 ft lbs -41 joules.

It comes with a 3X9X40 centerpiont scope and mounts it is not sighted in out of the box

Yes!!

Yes in 25 caliber with a well placed shot

I have one that generates 29 FPE the other one I've had to return twice Beacuse of low velocity and the rail feel off so it's miss hit but crossman is testing it before they send me a new one

yes but i would reccomend the .177 because you get more penetration hiher velocity and you can shoot higher bc projectiles like slugs

Yes, you can use BBs in this gun. IF you do YOU WILL RUIN the gun for pellets. The steel BBs will cause the rifling to deteriorate. All ACCURACY will be LOST. Spending 300 bucks for a BB gun seems outlandish to me since you are uining the gun. Currently any BB on the market is not .177. Most are slightly smaller so they effectively rattle down the barrel wearing down the rifling as they go. There are several articles on the internet telling you of the damage to a good gun by using steel BBs. BBs are not very accurate as they are so light. If you are shooting short distances then use a BB gun with a smooth barrel. If you want accuracy at longer distances then you need to shoot good pellets out of a good gun.

Not steel BB's, they damage the rifling and would be hard on the gun and scope. Lead ones can be used but they're also hard on the scope, but pointless anyway because they're inaccurate. Basically it's best to use lead pellets ~10.5gr or heavier.

I was told by the Crossman rep. pellets only. Since the barrel is rifled, BB's will probably mar the rifling which would greatly affect the accuracy. The only model that can use both that I know of is an old Benjamin air pistol, model 130, from the 1960's which was able to use darts, BB's and pellets. They may have made other models which could use both but I do not have that information.

First, in most states you cannot hunt deer with anything smaller than a .30 caliber gun. You need to buy some .177 pellets and look at them. They are not for hunting anything larger than a squirrel. The penetration of the pellet to kill an animal humanely is just not physically possible. You can use the .357 and larger pellet guns for deer hunting if your state allows them. Next is cleaning the gun. There are a number of opinions on the internet on the subject but you asked the question and AirGun Depot asked me to answer you. I am very opinionated about this subject so you need to research it a bit on the internet to get other opinions. MY humble opinion is that you clean the gun before you ever shoot it. I do not want to be pushing pellets down a barrel that may have all kinds of metal machining grit in front of it. Secondly, I do not know what gunk they put in the barrels to keep them from rusting but I don't want it in there either. I see where some guys suggest "shooting" the barrel clean of all that debris. I personally think they are idiots. There are numerous videos of cleaning barrels and most of them are good enough that you will get the idea of how to clean your gun. Do not use petroleum based solvents. That stuff eats the silicone rubber gaskets in any air rifle. Use only the mineral oil cleaners. Yes it will take longer but after a dozen or so patches it will be clean. You will feel good about it. I only clean new guns and very seldom clean a gun after that. I do wife them down but do not try to clean the bore unless I see a lot of crud. I do occasionally run a couple patches down the bore but do not try to get a clean white patch to come out. There is no powder residue since it is an air rifle and the graphite left in the barrel is actually a lubricant which does not have to be cleaned out. Therefore nothing to cause rusting in the bore. Just my way of doing things.

I used to work in a gun shop in Austin TX. I bought a used Bee Man R1 from a customer who while trying to run Deer out of his garden killed one, it was .177

The bore is usually filthy, so yes, clean it. Nobody should attempt to kill a Deer with it, especially in 177. I'd consider Racoon the limit. Plus the range is limited because the power drops off very fast, about half the power is lost at 50 yards or so.

The distance from the trigger to the end of the butt plate is 14 inches.

I like this air gun, realistic and accurate. What ever I shot it never failed. No more squirrels around my residents. Recommended for you.

It is a .177 only

Mine is a POS, at least the quality. After about 200 rounds (and the kind of rifle handling I'd afford a newborn infant), a perfectly focused image becomes impossibly blurry after firing a round. All screws are tight. I can snap it back to normal focus by tapping the scope or even the stock of the rifle. Working to resolve it now.

Zeroed great but after two weeks it got windage stuck to the far left. They sent me another scope,no problem for free.

The scope is holding up very well. I have put a couple of hundred rounds through it and no problems with the scope. It seems to hold its settings very well even thought the rifle kicks severely when fired. The scope mount, however, is a different story. My first NP XL 725 I shot about 25 rounds through it and the scope rail, which is supposed to be welded to the receiver, fell off the rifle, scope and rail went to the concrete. Arigun Depot replaced the rifle and this one seems to be holding up okay.

Well, I haven't had any issues yet. Shot probably a thousand or so times and no problem yet.

I took that scope off and put a leapers 4×16 ×44 swat

We speak ENGLISH in this country learn it or get out.

You can't use regular scopes on these air guns . They are air gun specific scopes that work very well and you will be a lot more accurate also. Took center point off ordered scope from air gun depot 3x9x40 haven't had any trouble out of new scope and is very accurate. Squirrels were invading the house , i am getting ready to replace siding se i eliminated the squirrels before starting this project. A dead Squirrel can't chew holes in the new siding. Hope this helps you out

You can't use regular scopes on these air guns . They are air gun specific scopes that work very well and you will be a lot more accurate also. Took center point off ordered scope from air gun depot 3x9x40 haven't had any trouble out of new scope and is very accurate. Squirrels were invading the house , i am getting ready to replace siding se i eliminated the squirrels before starting this project. A dead Squirrel can't chew holes in the new siding. Hope this helps you out

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Air gun specific scopes will hold up. Do not try and use scopes made for center fire guns. Air gun will blow the nitrogen out in regular scopes. Stop wasting money on big game scopes think outside the box . Spring action recoil needs an air gun scope. Accuracy will also improve. Have a great day.

The ONLY scope I found holding up to heavy reverse recoil was the old Redfield-- I shot maybe 20 a day over a 4 year period (killing time and starlings) And I went thru maybe 10 scops whose cross hairs started wandering before I accidentally found an old redfield and it totally solved my problems.

Rather than look for a stronger scope, consider making the gun less abusive to them. A better main seal and some tuning will make more power, better accuracy, and be less abusive to scopes. I doubt any scope can consistently survive on this gun as it comes from the factory. If you read reviews of this and other nitro spring guns you'll see scope breakage is very common. I tune all my guns and have yet to break a single scope, which are mostly cheap bundled ones and/or not airgun rated.

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The biggest factor imo is the pellet speed, so if you're ok with the trajectory then great. Another is pellet choice and cost. If you wanted you can buy whichever caliber then buy a barrel(s) in whatever other cal you want. The barrel is ~$16 from Crosman. If you want a complete assy with linkage and shroud it's closer to $32. With the complete assy you can swap barrels in 5-10 min. Parts availability and low cost is a big bennie with Crosman.

My everyday pellets are the Beeman Crow -Magnums, around .26 grams. The H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme Hollow points shoot really well with a weight of 28.4 grams. I have no regrets with this gun. I already own a Benji Nitro Piston .177 and recently bought 2 of the special edition models in the .22 caliber. I love them all. They all have their purpose. If I were to choose caliber, it would be hard to say. For slightly bigger game, the .25 is the way to go. If you are a squirrel, rabbit type of guy, the .22 is great and with the proper placing, power and ammo the .177 will definitely do the job. Just for the record, the .22 Benjamin Special Edition is worth a look unless you really are into the wood stock.

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#1 GRTlll tiger was the first thing I installed in all 3 of my Benjamin rifles. Try the stock one first is the only way to appreciate the difference.

BUY DIFFERENT WEIGHTS OF PELLETS AND FIND OUT WHICH ONE THE GUN LIKES.

Mine weighs 8lb 6oz without the scope, with scope it's 9lb 12oz. Brutal to carry around hunting so lots of people get a sling. The regular Trail weighs 6lb 8oz without the scope so just under 8 with.

My 22 version weighs 8.5lbs without the scope, or maybe it was 8.4... The 25 will be slightly less since the bore is larger, so maybe an oz lighter? Assuming the barrel OD is not larger which I doubt. Wood density and moisture content vary a couple oz too. Most magnum guns weigh about 8.5 btw.

The gun weighs the same in all three available calibers (0.177/0.22/0.25); about 8.5 pounds with the scope. It's no toy. This is a serious air rifle and it carries serious weight.

The gun weights pretty close 10lbs with scope without about 7.5-8 without

with scope almost 6 lbs,

Virtually no chance, but it depends on what you call good groups.

WELL NICK RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX IS A TOUGH ONE IT HAS THE POWER BUT IT ALSO HAS A KICK TO IT I CHANGE MY TRIGGER TO THE CHARLIE THE TUNA GRT-III AND SHOOT NICE GROUPS AT 20 YARDS BUT I STILL TRYING DIFFERENT PELLETS. IF YOU ARE A MARKS MAN I COULD SEE IT HAPPENING BUT YOU GOT TO WORK ON THAT TRIGGER. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IT HAS THE POWER ,MUST FIND THE RIGHT PELLET, AND A STEADY HAND IT IS POSSIBLE. I REALLY LIKE MINES BUT DID ALOT OF TWEAKING IHOPE THIS HELPS YOU.

I've had mine two months and after about 500 rounds and multiple different pellets the best it will do is 2" at 25yards. Sometimes better but certainly not reliably. I'd say I'm an average shooter and have owned many rifles.

Head shot, yes. We put out a Home Depot bucket, filled it with water, and at 50 feet put a round-nose pellet through both sides (1 shot). But coyotes are tough. A body shot may just send it home to die. Tom

*Update* The UTG 4-16x44 AO SWAT AccuShot Rifle Scope I bought had to go back for replacement... Shot it for awhile, had the zoom ring screw come loose and the end eye piece ended up wobbling. Yay for UTG for the replacement, quick and easy. The gun has a lot of barrel droop and no one seems to make weaver mount rings that adjust for droop (unless someone can correct me on this). I have a Regal NP and a Beeman dual caliber that are funner to shoot (and have dovetail scope mounts so i have adjustable scope mounts on them) but I have not given up on this gun yet. It just seems to be real tough on scopes, and you definitely need to loctite things down (pretty much all of the screws on it...all of them).

HELLO WILLIAM I PUT THE CENTER POINT 4X16 X40 SCOPE WITH A RED/GREEN ILLUMINATION ON MY RIFLE ITS A GOOD SCOPE FOR THE PRICE BUT HAS SOME ISSUES WITH IT LIKE THE KNOB FOR THE RED/GREEN ILLUMINATOR IS HARD TO TURN ON & OFF AND I DON'T CARE FOR THE FLIP UP LENS COVERS I TRIED TO GET THE STRETCH LENS COVER LIKE THE 3X9X40 THAT COMES WITH WITH THE RIFLE BUT CENTER POINT DOESN'T MAKE ONE FOR THAT SIZE. BUT OVERALL IT IS A REAL NICE SCOPE IT IS CLEAR AND POWERFUL A GOOD SCOPE FOR THE PRICE. IF YOU PLAN TO SHOOT IN THE DARK THEN IT IS A GOOD BUY FOR THE PRICE. HOPE THIS HELP YOU ON YOUR DECISION HAPPY SHOOTING WILLIAM

I just bought a UTG 4-16x44 AO SWAT AccuShot Rifle Scope... I've got it mounted (it's big) and plan on trying it out this weekend. The Centerpoint scope that came with it has all ready gone back to Crosman once due to it breaking after 100 shots or so. They sent the exact same model back as a replacement so I figured it was time to upgrade. It's not worth the cost in my opinion... The replacement went on my Crosman Nitro Venom. The XL1100 is a great gun, is very accurate off of a rest, and is heck of fun to shoot. I bought mine to keep the ground squirrels under control at my retirement house in the mountains. I really need some time with it, and I have some heavy pellets on order (some H&N Barracuda Hunter Extreme19.09 grain and Match 21.14 grain). Greg

Thank you very much Powered rifle

The XL isn't much louder then the Trail you have, but in 177 ti can go super sonic and make a very loud crack as Mike mentioned. The 22 should be a little quieter due to the bore diameter, and a tune can quiet a bit more, heavy pellets help too. Springers in this power range lose a lot in 177 as well so you're way better off in 22. It'll shoot a generic 14.3gr pellet at maybe 850 to 900, but more when tuned. Mine does 940 at maybe 1000' elevation so maybe 950+ at sea level? You can mid the shrouds tip to help quiet it some too, but most of the noise comes from the power plant so not much you can do. Whatever the story it's an excellent magnum and probably as quiet as you can get in a springer of this power. So just picture the Trail you have but ~2lbs heavier, longer, ~10lbs harder to cock, and ~40% more power. I think the regular Trails are excellent in 177, and this is excellent in 22. A physically larger gun to match the larger pellet, but otherwise very much the same.

Short answer is No louder. I do not have a chrono to give you FPS. Long answer is that there is a plethora of info on the web that will tell you that your XL1500 will not get anywhere near that many FPS with regular lead pellets. But at that point you gotta be smarter than the pellet rifle. The Story: I received a new pellet rifle (not the XL1500) and did not clean it. First mistake! Then I used a target pellet that was less than 7 grains. Second mistake. When I shot the first pellet it sounded like a 223 going off. In my little town it is a felony to shoot a firearm in the town limits. It was so quiet at the time. No traffic, no wind, no nothing. Needless to say I RAN back inside and put the rifle away. I waited until after dark to retrieve the pizza box target. I then realized that all the info I had read on the internet about air rifles had not stuck in my tiny brain. Soooo when I received my XL1500 just last Saturday what was the first thing to do? No do not shoot it. I cleaned it very well. Micro lubed the barrel bore and then dry patched it couple of times to remove all but the tiniest amount of lube left in the pores of the metal. Then I got a 10 grain pellet to try for the first shot. Other than the mechanics of the guns power plant it was quiet enough to shoot without my neighbors calling the police. Then I tried a 7.9 grain Crosman pellet and there was a difference in the shooting noise level but still not supersonic breaking the sound barrier to make too loud of a noise. There are several sites on the web that all offer lots of good information. Just do not make a decision based on a single person's opinion. There are a lot of talking bobbleheads out there. Think the NFL. When you find a concensus of opinions then you know that more than one person has experienced the situation. As to how many FPS that you can expect from the Crosman Hollow point pellets, the answer is something less than roughly 1100 fps as anything greater will be supersonic. As you know supersonic is when the pellets break the sound barrier and that is where you get the very loud sound. I have more than one Crosman/Benjamin and I like them all. Not that there are not things about them that I think a good company should change but I can either fix those items or they are not bad enough prevent me from buying them. Good Luck. DOG (Da Old Gunner)

This rifle comes with a scope no other sights. With this rifle and most other air rifles you'll want to use a scope anyhow and the one provided is adequate. I have 2 Trail NP's and I replaced one of the 3-9x scopes with a more powerful 4-16x not really much difference.

Their arnt any on this gun

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I have used the NPXL1100 in >22 for about 20,000 rnds. and then sold it to a friend. Chrony did not change after the initial break in, which was over 1000 pellets. Though when I bought it, it had erratic placement in shooting and needed tuning, fortunately I am a tuner and found the problem on the crown poor deburring was the culprit. After that it was a nice gun shooting sub MOA at 80yrds. The gas piston is consistent and reliable, I had similar thought before buying but gave it a go anyway. Doesn't hit like a Daystate PCP, but bang for the buck is excellent.

Nitro is cool but there are drawbacks, and one of those is failure. Lifespan is hard to say since they're fairly new, but they're like the gas struts on SUV hatches which most anyone can tell you don't last. The nitro are also harder on scopes which often break. I think if you're shooting squirrel this is the wrong gun, maybe the standard Trail or similar gun in 177 or 22 cal would be better. This gun is also heavier and harder to cock than the regular Trail, plus much more expensive. 25cal pellets are also expensive and hard to find. A Trail, Titan, or one of the other guns would be much easier to use and still have plenty of power for squirrels.

CO2 not required, it has a nitro piston (like the piston that holds your hood or rear door in your car). Single shot, break barrel, and it packs a punch!

I'd go a step further and suggest the JSB 13.43gr in 177. For .22 the JSB 18.13gr. The gun is better in 22 which is why I mentioned it, and you can buy a 22 barrel for ~$16 from Crosman. http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/Trail%20XL%20EVP.pdf You'll need the barrel, a link pin, and new breech seal which are about $18 all together. The remaining parts you can rob from your old barrel, or you can build a complete new 22 barrel so it's easily swappable, which is how I prefer it . For that it's maybe another $10 in parts. Same with the 25 cal should you want to try it. You can write me at chevota at hotmail if you have questions. Meanwhile check out those 13gr JSB, they're outstanding.

I use Crosman premier hollow points. they are awesome up to about 65 yards. at 25 yards i hit a 7 shot group about the size of a dime.

currently im using crosman premier ultra mags domed. 10.5 grain. accurate enough for most. your accuracy and energy delivered on target will increase will a better and heavier pellet.

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have to go with the JSB exact monster 13.4 grain. crosman premier ultra mag 10.5 are good to but the JSB will excel.

trial and error, i use a heavy grain, 11.57, and Beenman Silver Arrow

The nitro piston replaces the conventional metal coil spring with a nitrogen filled gas chamber. The advertised advantages of that change is that the Nitro Piston is a "quieter" shooter, and your gun doesn't experience spring metal fatigue over time. I can personally tell you that it is definitely a quieter air rifle. I can't comment on the spring fatigue issue as both of the two BTNP XL725's (0.22 & 0.25 cal) that I have purchased are too new to compare the RWS metal spring air rifle that I have had for years (without metal fatigue). I like the BTNP XL725, have recommended it to others, and would buy it again for both performance and price/value. Tom T

Do you mean .22 caliber? You can get them from Crosman, so maybe some place local that buys from Crosman can special order it? Crosman has .177, .22 and .25 barrels for this gun. Or a barrel from a Chinese model B22 should fit but I don't think any have the shroud.

You mean a .22cal? Yes, the barrel is available from Crosman direct for ~$16US. Not sure about shipping out of the country, I've heard stories they only ship within the US. You'll probably need a couple or several extra parts, but I can help with that info if you need chevota at hotmail.com

I would recommend going back to Benjamin for the answer.

This is a magnum so it will only make things worse. Try shooting heavier lead, like 10gr at minimum, but JSB 13.43 are even better. Lighter pellets are also harder on the scope so best to avoid them altogether.

pba ammo is very light in grains. you will need to purchase a quality alloy pellet and adjust the scope for this lower grain pellet. super important for the success of this rifle. "going to attach my full review that will answer your question, follow these steps and a quality pba will group." Accuracy is no problem. Power is no problem. Noise is no problem. “The more you shoot the quieter this rifle gets and the better you shoot.” Allow me to address any question or concern. Now I am very huge on accuracy and am an expert shooter, I will revisit this point later. To start: Step 1 this rifle out of the box should be cleaned of excess grease and oil, run a bore brush through the barrel too. Step 2 Tighten all screws with a screwdriver, the two stock screws, the trigger, and butt plate. & scope mounts and scope. Important important important...tighten the big screw holding the barrel to the receiver. You will need to remove the stock to access this screw. That will be the two side screws on the stock and the two in the trigger well. NOTE: this is a magnum air gun, shooting it will loosen ALL screws throughout this rifle. Use blue Loctite. Step#3 Break it in shooting cheap daisy pellets into the dirt or a whatever. This is not for practice, only to break in the rifle. (Needs to have a break-in period. in this period this rifle is burning off excess oil and grease and seating in all its components. Failure to do this will result in poor accuracy.) 150-500 pellets. Next: IMPORTANT this rifle likes 10.5 grain and up pellets. Anything less will cause poor accuracy. Recommend Crosman Premier ultra mags domed. Or JSB exact monsters 13.4 grain. Look it's like this, the more weight (grain) of the pellet, the more accurate this rifle. Reason for this is this is a Super Mag rifle. Light grain pellets will become unstable flying out of this thing at blazing speeds loosing accuracy. Heavy is better, more kinetic energy delivered on target means more destruction. This is Crossman big dog flag ship of break barrels. It is worth the money if you're interested in moving up in shooting ability. Follow these steps and your new xl1500 will be the pride of your collection. Last few things, if you're having problems with shooting this rifle after reviewing these steps then revisit to your shooting techniques. Don't call crosman. Their cust service just says to exchange it. These steps will make this rifle perform and remove frustration. Ps. revisiting my past statement…I'm getting nickel groups consistently at 50 feet in a sitting position. @ 100 feet I'm still picking off birds holding over .25 mil dot on the scope provided. I recommend this rifle.

I shoot only RWS superdomes in all of my guns. Stay consistent with your pellet type and weight and you will stay consistent on your targets. Find one type of pellet that fits your needs and site your gun in using it and consistency will follow.

Yes it does have a suppressor, you can tell by the fat barrel. Most all the break-barrel Benjamin models have this. The guns are still loud imo, but certainly better than a gun w/o and a coil spring. The nitro spring does more to reduce noise that the suppressor does, but nice to have both. The gun is very nice looking, probably the best looking airgun period. It's hard to cock and a bit heavy, but that goes for most magnums anyway.

predator polymag is absouletly #1 in my experiances ive tried 6- different types, H&N FTT, Benjamin dome, baracudda hunter xtrem, crow magnum and H&N FT...with predator polymags 10yds 1/4inch groups 15yds thur-20yds 1/2inch groups, 25 & 30yds 1/2 to 3/4 ctc= or measuring your pellet from the center of one pellet to the center of the other that's completion style.. hope this was helpful to ya..

yes. this is the second function of the nitro piston. the gas in the piston does not react to the temperature due to the compression of the nitrogen.

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I believe they are considered a medium profile scope ring. I replaced the scope that came with mine. I bought the Centerpoint 4-16X40 scope with red/green illumination - open box and am very happy with this scope on this gun.I put the scope that came with my Benjamin Trail onto my Stoeger X10.

It fits left or right handed equally. This is the only stock option, but you can reshape it and remove one or both cheek rests if you want. You can also order a different stock, for example the Stoeger X50 should be a perfect fit, but I can't remember if the X50 has the slot for the cocking linkage. If you buy the standard version (non XL) you can choose from a wide variety of stocks from Crosman and other mfg's.

Mine is 38lbs at its peak measured 1" from tip. I used a proper pull type scale, not a bathroom scale.

It's hefty! I don't know how scientific this is, but I placed the barrel against a bathroom scale and cocked the rifle while observing the read out and it peaked out at a max of 45 lbs. just before the sear set the trigger. If you shoot a lot you definitely get a work out. But then again XL1100 packs a powerful punch! In comparison, I also bought a Titan GP also in .22, did the same thing and it peaked out at 35 lbs. I can cock this rifle all day. I am very pleased with both NP rifles and have killed many a squirrel with these rifles, but I favor the power of XL1100..

It takes about a 35-40 lb. pull in order to cock this rifle. Once the barrel is broken the cocking effort is very smooth and I've had no problems cocking this rifle.

Clean barrel and get use to the trigger and this gun performs. Break-in important with all the XL line about 50 rounds. Do these things and you love this and all XL line guns.

I have used it successfully for squirrels, and chipmunks.

No, but you could hone one out, or buy the .25 barrel and insert a sleeve. I think everyone's question is why? Are you making a shotgun? If so cool, let me know how it works because I want a shotgun too! I was thinking of just sanding the rifling out of a .25 barrel and using making custom little shells to hold the shot. Just remember that whatever you're using it for the gun needs some resistance from the ammo, so like shooting BB's would be a bad idea, especially for the scope. Look up "dry fire" and the damage it causes. A pellet acts like a cork allowing pressure to build inside, if that pressure doesn't build then it gun pounds itself and the scope will be the first to go. So BB's, darts, too light pellets, no pellet etc a bad idea...

I havn't heard of a smooth bore available for this model. You can call Crosman at (800)7AIRGUN.

Accuracy is no problem. Power is no problem. Noise is no problem. “The more you shoot the quieter this rifle gets and the better you shoot.” Allow me to address any question or concern. Now I am very huge on accuracy and am an expert shooter, I will revisit this point later. To start: Step 1 this rifle out of the box should be cleaned of excess grease and oil, run a bore brush through the barrel too. Step 2 Tighten all screws with a screwdriver, the two stock screws, the trigger, and butt plate. & scope mounts and scope. Important important important...tighten the big screw holding the barrel to the receiver. You will need to remove the stock to access this screw. That will be the two side screws on the stock and the two in the trigger well. NOTE: this is a magnum air gun, shooting it will loosen ALL screws throughout this rifle. Use blue Loctite. Step#3 Break it in shooting cheap daisy pellets into the dirt or a whatever. This is not for practice, only to break in the rifle. (Needs to have a break-in period. in this period this rifle is burning off excess oil and grease and seating in all its components. Failure to do this will result in poor accuracy.) 150-500 pellets. Next: IMPORTANT this rifle likes 10.5 grain and up pellets. Anything less will cause poor accuracy. Recommend Crosman Premier ultra mags domed. Or JSB exact monsters 13.4 grain. Look it's like this, the more weight (grain) of the pellet, the more accurate this rifle. Reason for this is this is a Super Mag rifle. Light grain pellets will become unstable flying out of this thing at blazing speeds loosing accuracy. Heavy is better, more kinetic energy delivered on target means more destruction. This is Crossman big dog flag ship of break barrels. It is worth the money if you're interested in moving up in shooting ability. Follow these steps and your new xl1500 will be the pride of your collection. Last few things, if you're having problems with shooting this rifle after reviewing these steps then revisit to your shooting techniques. Don't call crosman. Their cust service just says to exchange it. These steps will make this rifle perform and remove frustration. Ps. revisiting my past statement…I'm getting nickel groups consistently at 50 feet in a sitting position. @ 100 feet I'm still picking off birds holding over .25 mil dot on the scope provided. I recommend this rifle.

My son is in love with this air rifle. I have not been able to experiment with the rifle to get a feel for it, as my son quickly gets on the rifle each time we set up targets. I've seen 1/2 " groups at 20 - 25 yards from his targets. I was skeptical about the optics with this package, but so far so good. He has 500-600 rounds through the rifle with no problems. I picked Benjamin based on references from others with experience with Bejamin.

I am very happy with the Benjamin Trail NP XL1500 Air Rifle. I have run about 300 rounds through it. As everyone said, it is loud at the start but does quiet down after a while. The scope was a no-brainer to attach. It even includes an allen wrench to tighten the screws. The stock is good quality, although on mine there were two spots, one on each side of the rifle close to where the front strap mount is located, where the finish was gone right out of the box. I suspect it was placed in some sort of fixture at the factory before the finish was dry. I plan on trying to locate something to touch this up, without making a bigger more noticeable area.

It's common for the nitro spring to leak and do this. If your cocking effort is lighter to match the power loss then it's the spring. If the cocking effort is 100% then either the breech seal or main seal is not doing their job. New seals or springs can be bought direct from Crosman for a reasonable price.

First is your crony functioning properly? If it is then my second question is have you toyed with the gun? Opened it? If not then I would say there is a problem and you should contact Crosman and return it if still under warranty. \ Oaks

Are you sure your chronograph is not set to meters per second? That would be equivalent to 1171 feet per second. If not, how old is the gun?

The trigger system is adjustable, excellent overall rifle. If the need ever arises, I will buy this again. I have tried many other brands and this is by far the best .

I love this gun! It is fun to shoot. I was amazed at the quality of the gun. I do not have any issues with the trigger but I am not an experienced 'Gun Guy'. Most of 50+ years experience are with Bows.

Hi Conner, The trigger is often the weakest link in many guns. This trigger is not too bad but I did replace mine very quickly with a Charlie Da Tuna adjustable, 2-stage trigger. Cheap, easy to do, and a very effective upgrade. I made the same upgrade to my Gamo Whisper that had a horrible trigger. Overall, the finish and performance of this gun is great. Thanks, Frank

It is quite powerful. It can penetrate 3/4" plywood at 30 yards. So far two ground hogs, one porcupine, one fox, and one coyote with one shot kills. Not crazy about the accuracy, can hit a milk jug at 100 yards 8 out of 10 times. No where near PCP accuracy.

China, like most inexpensive airguns. The other option is Germany, but it's a lot more $. It's worth it imo, the German guns like Weihrauch are amazing quality, but few are willing to pay. RWS claim to be German but I have my doubts, whatever the case they're mid way between Crosman/Benjamin and Weihrauch. Like the RWS 34 in .177 or the 350 in .22 are the ones to get (imo)

china.... live everything else.

It comes with a suppressor already, that's why the barrel is so fat. The barrel is about half that size and the outer tube makes a hollow chamber between the two. When fired the setup collects air and sound at the end of the barrel and diverts some of it backwards into that space. It's not an ideal setup because it could catch more sound, but it does help a lot and it's not as obviously illegal as others so you're less likely to have legal problems with it. You can also modify the tip to catch and divert more air/sound if you want to play with it. If you wanted to you could put a regular style silencer on it by removing the current set up which is threaded on the barrel, but the threads are course so I'm sure you'd need a custom silencer to fit it. It would probably be easier to thread a plain barrel to fit your silencer.

Most likely not. But this gun is very quiet and would not need one even in a relazed neighborhood environment.

You can get free shipping if you spend over $199 and live in the lower 48 states. We can not give free shipping to Argentina.

I'd try the H&N Barracuda and JSB 18.13gr, both are heavy and work well with magnums. As you may already know the accuracy with spring guns like this is mostly with the shooter, but with those pellets you know you're a step ahead. Also be sure all the screws are tight etc and the gun is properly lubed. If you still have trouble you might look at the barrel and/or its crown and the problem and consider fixing the crown or replacing the barrel. They're cheap from Crosman.

It is difficult to master the right hold on this gun (you will have to experiment with it). Mine sometimes likes different holds at different times. This definitely has the power, and as far as accuracy goes, you will have to experiment with the pellets. It depends on the gun, not all are EXACTLY the same. I've had good experiences with Crosman Premier Hollowpoints, Predator Polymags, H&N FTT, etc.

You are allowed to purchase wherever you would like. We don't have any stores, we are only an online company.

Try checking out at the sight and if there is a restriction you will get a warning before you purchase the product. There are a lot of different regulations for all different countries and they are always changing, so we have set up an automatic warring if there is a product, based on your location, that is forbidden. Shipping price always changes, but you should be able to see the final price before you complete your purchase.

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Includes CenterPoint 3-9x40mm with adjustable objective and Mil-Dot reticle.

No, sorry it does not come in a different colour.

No it does not come with a sling.

Kills squirrels easily. I use 18.13 grain jsb match exact jumbo heavy diabolo lead pellets and get one shot kills. I would recommend this rifle because it is powerful and is very accurate. Using a Primos trigger bipod adds stability and accuracy since the rifle is heavy. Must master the stock trigger by squeezing it like a lemon in tiny finger movements. I have nearly 3000 rounds through my np xl1100. You will get use to the trigger. Just think, no air to buy and no need to use a pump.

I kill squirrels with one shot dead on accuracy anywhere from 16 to 30 yards when zeroed in at 23 yards, even though have taken at 40 yards. I have found that my rifle loves the jsb match exact jumbo heavy 18.13 grain pellet. Just think, no air to buy or no need to pump air! Shot nearly 3000 rounds and have mastered the stock trigger. I also use the Primos bipod to steady my aim which makes a big difference in accuracy.

YES!!!!! T.O.T.A.L.L.Y. This pulverizes squirrels with head shots! If Predator Polymag pellets work good in your gun they are the best pellet for squirrels.

I've taken hogs with Crosman Penetrators in .22 cal. Ear shots at 20 yards or less.

Once you master the correct hold position, and select the right ammo by trial and error, the rifle is pretty accurate. (I've gotten 1/2" 5 shot groups at 35yds, if that's saying anything....) The largest thing I would shoot with this is a raccoon (and only if you make the shot count, otherwise you'd better have a backup powder burner handy for when it comes to chow on your leg, if you throw the shot slightly.)

I don't know about the Gamo Bull Whisper, but what I can tell you is that my xl1100 is very quiet. This was one of my concerns as well, since I live in a very crowded area. All I hear is the impact of the 22 cal pellet smashing against my target. The only time it sounds like a 22LR bullet is after I have put a drop of chamber oil in the chamber. After 2 shots it is back to normal quiet shooting. Backyard shooting into a bullet box is what I do alot of and noise is not an issue. Also I have never felt it kick. Hope this helps you, my friend.

Yes it is allowed in California.

It's a lot of gun for finches, but yeah it'll work. Considering the target size and range I'd consider a more accurate gun with less power. Maybe a Weihrauch 95 or 80 in 177? A 95 is only a little more $ and will be far more accurate.

It can, but use heavy pellets (10+ grains). This same gun in .22 cal will probably be more accurate, powerful, and all around better, IMO. I have it in .22 and it is great for long range and delivers a heck of a wallop upon impact.

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Probably not, I have this gun in .22 cal, and it is fairly loud when the pellets hit the target. So the .25 cal will just be even louder.

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This is not all-weather, nor is it available in synthetic stock at this time.

You could mount a normal Crosman rear sight on the rear but you'll need to thread the breech block for the screws, but you could also glue it on.. Then either make a front sight or cut up a normal one and either glue it or bolt it to the tip of the suppressor. You could make one from a small machine screw and thread it into the tube then shape the exposed part to the height and shape you want. The suppressor can be rotated so you don't have to worry about getting the sight on perfectly straight. If you make a mistake and ruin the suppressor they are extremely cheap from Crosman.

I have a beemen .177 springer, it kicks like a mule. I've installed an accushot 4-20x50 scope about 4 years ago and have had no problems, it should work great on this gun ( big scope, a little overkill )

The scope won't go out of sight as much as others because of the weaver mount. It dosen't move and the gas piston reduces recoil.

If you are not very strong, it can be heavy, but I don't notice the weight. The only way you can have iron/fiber-optic sights, is to ship it to Crosman, buy and have them install the sights from a similar gun. Personally, I wouldn't get any other gun. This will always be my go-to gun for any job out of my 9 airguns. If you are leaning on open sights, the Hatsan 125 in .22 or .25 is REALLY good as I've heard, but I personally haven't shot one yet, but will possibly purchase one in the future.Hope this helps.

the .177 will go further due to the lighter weight but won't be as accurate or hit as hard as the .22

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They'll last for life if you don't abuse it, like let it rust or neglect its lube needs. The nitro spring is the weak link, they vary in life span from days to maybe decades. Some people find they already leaked when new. If you have a warranty then check the cocking effort and/or velocity to be sure it's still full strength before it expires. If you're past warranty then they can be bought direct from Crosman for $26 (I think), + $4 shipping. Other parts like the breech seal and piston seal last a really long time because of the material they're made of, in the old days seals were short lived. I imagine they might last for life, but I'd change them after 10 years anyway. I change my piston seal first thing on these types of guns because they're usually damaged from the factory thanks to the sharp edges inside the gun which cuts the lip of the seal, the lip is the most important part. So I remove the sharp edges, install a new seal and all is well. A bad seal can reduce power and be harder on the gun and especially the scope. The worse the seal the harder it is on parts. New seals are only $1.15

I have only owned my B.T.NP for a short period but I am more than pleased with the results so far. I am shooting tight groups and have had no problems. I highly recommend this gun.

So far I have not had any problems at all. I got it in December 2011, so I only have about 500 to 600 rounds through it. I understand that the nitro piston provides better dependability than spring guns, and that temperature or use won't cause it to lose power. I have been extremely happy with this purchase.

I bought this air rifle for pest control, after shooting it to sight it in, It's turned into whole new hobby, I've had no problems with it, It's very accurate, as for the noise levels, it's the quieter than the air rifles my friends have, with little or no recoil, I think you'll find this product to be a very, very reliable piece in your collection, after all it is a Benjamin....Enjoy John Brown

I've had mine for a year now of constant shooting, and have had no problems....they'll probably last 2 years before you'll have to get a new piston seal.

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Yes.

Connor: Try the Crow Magnum pellets, they're hollow points that actually open up and do what they're supposed to do vs others that are just for looks. I've been using them since they came out and I have no complaints. Another pellet that actually opens is the Crosman Destroyer, it's not nearly as good but they're very cheap. They work better in lower powered guns because they open up at lower velocity than the Crow Mag. for example I use them in my Tempest pistol which doesn't have the power to open a Crow Mag, but in a gun like this XL the Crows open just fine and do max possible damage for a .177. When I hunt I usually carry the Crow in one pocket, and something else like the 8.4gr JSB in another. Very similar trajectory and it's nice to choose the best pellet for the job. With the Crow Mags you can clearly hear the distinctive and very loud POP as they hit their target. I always use them on Crows because of the name :) but still they're the best pellet for Crows and they tend to fall when hit with a Crow Mag vs fly away and die elsewhere like round and pointed pellets do as you mentioned.

Very impressed . Nice looking and shooting gun.

At first, I was speculating about purchasing the rifle. But after reading articles and reviews, I decided to go ahead and purchase it. I was contemplating of purchasing from another location, but after looking around, I found the exact one at a great price at Airgun Depot. I ordered it on Monday, expected to be in next week, but to my surprise, it came in on Thurs. After examination and mounting the scope on, all the thoughts of regrets and speculations had disappeared. The rifle is built solid and sturdy, just how I liked it. I already owned a few air rifles so I had a few different types of pellets stocked. So I took it to a nearby field and set in the scope. I was surprised by the effortless of cocking the Nitro Piston. It was smoother and quieter than the traditional spring piston. I set up oranges at 10, 20, and 30 yards. First I adjusted at 10 yards, after a few shots and adjustment, I knew the next one will hit it. Sure enough, the orange exploded when i pulled the trigger. The next shots on 20 and 30 yards was right on target. I've used all kind of pellets but, personally, the crossman premiers hollowpoint pellets was the best. It had penetration, accuracy, and speed combined. Although the heavier pellets has a slightly more penetration, it tends to drop and slows down more for long range. Its best for short distances. Overall, I am very satisfied with the purchase. I have no regrets whatsoever since the purchase. All my friends that tried it said they loved it and was looking to get one. So I recommended I've shopped around and Airgun Depot had the best price and quick delivery. Indeed, this is not a toy gun and should be handle by an adult. So if you're looking for a well built, powerful, accurate air rifle, get the Benjamin, its worth it.

It is a great gun for hunting, and long range shooting, but the .22 would be better IMO, the .22 pellet retains more energy and knocks down stuff harder......177 kinda just does a pass through.

Hey Joe, So far I am very pleased with this air rifle. If you read my first review it is all in there and still holds true at this time. Rifle is very very accurate,hard hitting and a real pleasure to shoot. Air Gun Depot had to best price I could find and fast shipping, easy to deal with. I did notice that mine likes pellets that have a head size of 4.49 or 4.50, meaning that they insert into the breach with little if any effort. This is a rifle,meaning it feels and shoots more like a quality built .22 rifle. I thing that most people will be please with this gun so long as they are willing to put a little time into working with it. If you just want a plinker that is only so so in accuracy and power and do not what to put some time into it, then I would suggest a lower priced air rifle. A little time,effort and money and this thing will realy be at the top of its game, at a fraction of what high priced guns cost. Darryl

I have loved my pellet gun. It is a tack driver and inexpensive to shoot.

This gun is hard to shoot accurately because of the recoil, it kinda is a scope killer, but not often. Nitro will last you at least 4 years before you'll have to have it serviced. Real world velocity with 24gr pellets is like 600fps.

Check you local and state laws to find out if you have to have a license. This could take a raccoon with a head shot at 40yds max. It is fairly loud, but not as loud as a .22lr. This is an air rifle. Not a firearm.

It's fairly quiet, someone could shoot it in the neighborhood without anyone knowing. It could kill a cat or small dog from 200 feet or more. No license or registration is required, but they're outlawed in a few cities. Sorry about the pet. Very few people would do that, and even less without a reason. If it was a dog that barks constantly, especially one that keeps people up at night then I retract the apology and the pets owner should be glad that is all that happened.

Yes it will.

Yes, as long as you make the shot count. Head shots will kill them.

I wouldn't even consider a shot on a turkey at a 100 yards with a 12 gauge shotgun, if you decided to use this gun, and were lucky enough to hit the bird you would just wound it. Turkeys are a lot tougher than you think, keep your shots to 30 yards

50yds max with this gun....no farther.

This is about as powerful as you can get for the price. Any more power would probably cost three times as much. I'd guess if it's legal (which I didn't know) then this is the gun I'd use. No it doesn't take any gas to charge it, when they say nitrogen gas here they mean it has a pneumatic spring vs the usual steel coil spring. All you have to do is cock it for each shot, that's it. I've had a gas spring gun for over 12 years now and it still shoots like the day it was new.

50 yds is kinda iffy for a turkey....100yds, no way. To humanly take the bird at 100yds, you'll need something like the Eun Jin Sumatra.

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The higher FPS for the Benjamin Trail NP XL 1100 . 22 Cal. means that the accuracy of this air rifle will be sustained at a larger distance. This is an extremely potent rifle and used with good quality ammunition like the Benjamin .22 Discovery pellets you have an extremely capable air rifle that allows you to reach higher levels of accuracy at longer distances. After properly aligning the scope, accuracy will depend on factors such as wind velocity/direction, distance and the shooter's abilities. Be assured that with this airgun you have the required power and consistency to reach higher levels of accuracy.

I believe the XL 1100 Nitro may be more accurate than the Benjamin NP .22 because of the increased velocity. I do a lot of pistol/rifle/shotgun competitive shooting sports but chose this gun because of the reduction in noise. I bought the gun for pest control (woodchucks) with shots at 50 to 75 yards, and the increased stopping power (bullet weight X FPS/1,000) will be higher with this gun than with the Benjamin NP .22.

Not familiar with NP.22. Have not got my Trail NP Xl1100 dialed in as yet. Benjamin notes the nitrogen piston takes braking in. The 1500 is quieter and has lots more thump than my .177 RWS.

I have the trail NP and with a hawk 3x9x50 AO I take squirrel and pidgeons at 30-50 yds no problem shooting crossman hollowpoints gun is quiet powerful and at 35 yds can get a 10 shot group inside 1 1/2 " spread which is lethal for rodents. Also chronied At 750 fps before break in haven't rechronied it lately. One shot body shot on a 34lb raccoon took it out of service but needed a follow up for humane dispatch (first shot prevented it from climbing fence and just laid there, and neighbors didn't even notice)

On a noise level, 1 being the quietest and 10 being the loudest, it ranks about a 5. Max effective range is like 100yds for a sagerat. 80yds for a starling. etc.

It is very quiet for an airgun of this power. Both the pneumatic spring and the barrel shroud are why it's so quiet. I have a benjamin with the gas spring but no shroud and it's quieter than the new Stoeger Suppressor model. It's literally about 1/3rd as loud as a regular airgun. Range is all about pellet choice and if you can hit the target, but this gun has about as much range as you're going to get without spending big bucks on a pre-charged style gun that uses a scuba tank for power. I don't know what you're shooting but even my weaker guns can kill a crow or rabbit for example at 100 yards or more.

This gun is a Medium to Loud on the Decibel scale, I shoot starlings out to 80+ yds all the time during the summer....If you do your part.

The scope is fine, the range is 1-100yds, depending on what you're shooting.

Those scopes work pretty good for me as long as you dial the parallax out of it, usually the ones I get are way off. You didn't say what you had as a kid, but most people had a Crosman 760 to similar. This one is 4-5 times that power. You won't regret buying it if that's what you're wondering.

Well first, it isn't the scope that makes a gun accurate, it is the way you hold the gun, what pellets you use through it, and how you pull the trigger that makes a gun accurate. But yes, this scope is fine with this gun, mine has been on there for nearly a year with no problems.

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Advantages: Bigger holes through your target, more knockdown power.....Disadvantages: Heavy, pellets aren't cheap, and the pellet will be going pretty slow.

Advantages of the .25 cal are that there is more knockdown power and more FPE, the disadvantage is that the pellet will be traveling a lot slower and the prey might hear the gun and move before the pellet hits it.

Overall the rifle is decent for the money.I had a Crow Magnum.25 Cal. Rifle I got from Beemans, back in the mid 80's when they first came out, this rifle reminds me of that rifle, just not quite the same quality, and not nearly as expensive. Not real hard to cock and a very positive lock up. First I tried the Benjamin Domed Pellets not very accurate with this rifle. Tried several different pellets until I finally found one that would shoot 3/8 -1/2 inch groups at twenty yards. Was the H& N Sport Field Target Trophy 19.91 grain.Some groups with this pellet were even smaller. They shoot the very best and clock on the Chrony at 630-660 FPS. Got 860-900 FPS with the Raptor Platinum Power Pellets but accuracy was poor.You must shoot these powerful with a light hold, if you try to grip them like you are shooting do not expect superior or even satisfactory accuracy. My overall opinion a fairly decent squiurrel rifle with H&N Sport Field Trophy at targets up to 30 yards.The next best accurate pellet was the H& N Ram Point. Another thing the factory trigger is awful, I got a trigger from Charlie Da Tuna. Made a world of difference.

You'll have to get that from Charlie da tunas website.

Some Benjamin products are others are not. One our site, it will say in Blue that it is made in the USA. This one does not.

No, the Nitro piston cylinder is part of the gun and cannot be removed.

Les premiers coups sonts bruyant mais ils s'aténuent avec le temps, seulement la précision du tir ne vient qu'apres 1000 tirs ou plus, la détente est médiocre, voir un remplacement comme GRT3 trigger, attention au joint du cannon, il influence beaucoup sur la précision du tir car l'enlignement du canon vs le télescope est imprécis lors de la remontée du canon. The first shots sonts noisy but they aténuent with time, only the accuracy of the shot does not come until after 1000 shots or more, the trigger is poor, see GRT3 as a replacement trigger, attention to seal cannon, it influences many the accuracy of the shot because enlignement barrel vs the telescope is inaccurate during the ascent of the barrel.

It's the lube inside the chamber igniting. Just shoot the first ten or so pellets into a tightly rolled up old bath towel with the muzzle pushed into it. The towel will silence those shots until they stop. I always do that when I get a new gun or anytime I oil the chamber. Once it stops it's because there is no more volatile fuel left in the oil, but the oil is still there to keep things lubed so you're fine. Use the recommended chamber oil for it, it's the least likely to ignite or will only do so one or two shots. The gunk china puts in is awful in more ways that one and some people say their guns don't quiet down for 100 shots. I've never had more than 5 or 6 shots fire like that so I guess it's who did the lubing at the factory that day. Don't ever use something really flammable like WD-40 because it will really light up and the harder the explosion the harder it is on the gun. I can't imagine it doing much damage but experts say it will ruin the gun if for example you used WD-40 all the time. And speaking of damage, never ever shoot it without a pellet in there, that really hurts the gun.

Maybe you should get him the regular Benji Trail, they are not as powerful, as a result, not as loud.

first shots are always way louder now mine sounds so quiet i can shoot a squirrel in my neighbors tree and get before they even notice anything had happened. I have taken about 1000 shots though. Give him a couple cans of pellets and a target and it will be fine

I agree with the others, the oem rings will probably fit, plus your rail is higher than normal rails so you have that added height. I always buy the lowest possible rings I can find because it's better to have the scope as close to the barrel as possible, plus it looks better. I think it's cool looking to have the scope almost touching the gun, sometimes it's so tight I can't even get the scope cap on :) One gun I had was a teeny bit too close and touched the gun before the ring screws were tight, so I shimmed it to fit. The other option was the next size up rings which I tried and did avoid using. That scope btw was 50mm w/ the lager diameter adjustable objective using low height rings and a std cut into the receiver rail. Of course that's all my opinion, others prefer it differently such as the high see-thru rings for quick sighting, but if you use both eyes to find your target it works better than see-thru rings. It's not hard to get used to doing it that way. Fyi..... Good luck on it!

The rings that come with the gun will work.

The rings that came on this scope will work.....but the size you need if you want two pairs of rings, are high profile weaver mounts/rings.

You can probably use the rings that come with your gun. I don't think the scope you are thinking about installing will require new rings. I would mount the Center Point scope and try it before you purchase a new scope because I think you will be pleasantly surprised. It is a quality scope designed for this air rifle !

I recieved mine in 2015 . And decided to put a center point 4-16x40aoil scope on it . After touring around at 100' to get it close I brought to my friends farm on a 75 degree afternoon with light to no wind . I set a 5 gallon plastic container out at 125yds .. Well I ran about a hundred rounds out to it with a 7" glow shot clipped to it . After sighting it in ( no elevation changes) I was two mil up above center and every shot hit the barrel with most of them inside the 2nd ring .. Some 4" pattern for the most part . It was going clean thru one side of the barrel and then leaving 1/8" impact dings on the exit side . This was with crosman lum77 10.5 grain ultra mags The field is 300 yards across and I fired a couple at a tree from that distance . It hit the tree 3/4 times hard enough I could hear the impact . Not sure where it hit but it did

This gun chronied 1637, with crosman ssp.177 rounds and gold pba raptor 1550 consistent on a near freezing day. This gun has a very long distance and is no toy. See gamo bone collector and review with photos.

Too many variables, the main question being what do you consider accurate? For example 1" or 4"? and what power to you consider adequate on impact? There are programs available for free online that can tell you your trajectory including pellet drop, and power at that distance. I can send you some, just write me at chevota at hotmail and put "Airgun" in the subject. This goes for anyone who wants the programs.

I can't answer that question right now. I have been breaking my gun in at about 20 yds. I have about 100 shots through it and it is dead on at that distance. I'm shooting Crosmans 10.4gram pellets and they are accurate for now. I gave the gun a good cleaning and put blue loctite on all the scope screws after about 50 shots and the gun is holding a perfect pattern(about a 1/4 ") right now. The gun has plenty of power and I'm sure it will reach quite a ways out after the breakin period !

No it does not. This is the .25 cal model but you can also get it in .177 and .22 .